But then again, I've heard there's some real idiots who have landed those positions, and have hung onto them. Consider following President Eyrings example, Elder Andersen told students. WebNeil Williams. And I realizedhe just told me recently why he pesters me sometimes, and he's like "Neil, I got to see you. MIJA RIEDEL:sides, but are theredo you also see it in any kind of terms, episodes, or periods that were distinct? NEIL WILLIAMS: Were there profound changes or memorable. Could you say anything about how they connected? NEIL WILLIAMS: And she started to eventually, but she thought, "Oh my gosh, they're going to go around me and sell," and so it was ironic because, 20-something years later, I would meet somebody like Sandy Besser in Santa Fe, who donated the work to the de Young Museum, or someone would say, " Oh gosh, I've been buying your work for 26 years." Like even when I do production work, or picturing other pieces I'd like to explore. All rights reserved. You know, "The pots aren't art." New York,NY10010, Dedicated to collecting and preserving the papers and primary records of the visual arts in America, Archives of American Art, Smithsonian Institution, 2023 Archives of American Art, Smithsonian Institution, Terra Foundation Center for Digital Collections, Guidelines for Processing Collections with Audiovisual Material, Washington D.C. Headquarters and Research Center, Publications Using Material from the Archives of American Art, Oral history interview with Neil Williams, 2014 June 5-6. NEIL WILLIAMS: consistently. MIJA RIEDEL: Mm-hmm. And for some reason, when she passed away, Sheri scampered over to the people who inherited her estate and said, "Look, is there any way we could get Neil?" And, she just helped with the cups. Well, here's a brush, do it. NEIL WILLIAMS: So, I stuck with it. He knew what he had to do. They were trying tothey had a healthy rivalry of who discovered which image first, who used it first in which painting. And Squeak said it really well, too. The other thing that's consistent, I think, with her is the physicality of being able to build that amount of work, and that scale of work. NEIL WILLIAMS: And then it's lightly water-polished with a damp sponge, NEIL WILLIAMS: after it's sanded, which is the excruciating part, because you're sanding these little fine, fine tines or fine, fine feathers without breaking them. I know that they're getting good, and that's a great feeling. NEIL WILLIAMS: Yeah, within the end of the first semester there, yeah. And very asexual, NEIL WILLIAMS: andbut also very intriguing, NEIL WILLIAMS: because he was a brilliant orator when he wasn'twhen he was stable, and when he was fluid, amazing source of information, historically. How will you withstand the temptations and pressures that seek to diminish your faith in Jesus Christ? MR] the work feel like a long thread of continuity, a long series of theme and variation? MIJA RIEDEL: So when you say he was working with these domes, where these proposals brought to him and this was something he championed? NEIL WILLIAMS: Right. Really enlightened. For continued life, and exploration, and questioning, and celebration. But I was happy. I mean, we're stuck in these ephemeral bodies, and we're just renting them, and people need to have comfort zones, or they need to have zones of, "Okay, this is where I belong. She was a member of the Sacramento Symphony. For all other types of cookies we need your permission. NEIL WILLIAMS: Sure, functional stuff, bowls and platters; trying to keep them interesting for myself. It's very, very humbling, extremely humbling. MIJA RIEDEL: Mm-hmm. Neal Currey likes to say adventure is in his blood. NEIL WILLIAMS: Mm-hmm. I mean, Betty Asher was wonderful, of course, the matriarch of west coast art, and Rena kept an eye on me and was always very generous and very helpful, especially if I needed to reach out and, "Rena, I have a few new pieces I would like to be able to get some more materials," and she would buy them and resell them. She was just fantastic. ", NEIL WILLIAMS: So there is some childhood playfulness aspect of it, which I think is okay, as long as it's not too light, and as long as it doesn't diminish, I think the effort, or that it's been a life-long body of work. But she wasI knew she was worried about it, because I could see she was nervous. Because once boredom sets in, or once you, you know, you talkyou see so many artists or crafts people who go one automatic pilot, and the work loses its' soul, and it shows. She made us do, like, a wildflower collection, so we learned all about genus and species, the whole- and she was justI remember her of all of those elementary school teachers. NEIL WILLIAMS: I mean, there's athat's why the attraction-repulsion dynamic is to be found with so many of them. She would sell what I gave hereverything I gave her and she would pay on time. And it was two floors, and hundreds and hundreds of pieces. Elder Andersen shared the experience of President Henry B. Eyring, second counselor in the First Presidency, who determined as a young father to record a few lines every day how the Lord was blessing his life. You know, like, the little chicken image or some of those other images that she made eight, nine feet high. You became her assistant in '77? Thanks for the heads up." But she told her students and wasI remember it stuck with methereto get yourself out of thoseshe said clay was such a natural conductor for that. I didn'treally think of that much. 2013, 2014 or something like that? NEIL WILLIAMS: Mm-hmm. So, it was a double major. It's like, "Ah, okay. MIJA RIEDEL: I think that's what I was trying to get at earlier, is that straddling of the personal and the universal that works, that seems profound and present in her work. NEIL WILLIAMS: Then I ended up more so reading more recently in the last ten years, I don't knowfascinations with otherworldly things, unexplained things, unexplained phenomenons, UFOs or undiscovered species or missing people, missing time, interesting mysteries. NEIL WILLIAMS: [Laughs.] Violayou suggest and you try and have ahelp guide her. Uh-uh. They had a wonderful one, too. They're nothing if not curvilinear. But she was talented and had a great eye. I never worried about it working on a spiritual level, because if it does that for somebody else, like we talked about the apples on a table, that's great. He didn't like people in parties or company, was very isolationist. I'll remember. So Iwhere I'm trying to think about Noguchi, talking about his time element and carving away, and how itthe all-consuming and meditative. MIJA RIEDEL: Some people said that Charles was gay. But, earlier, when she was younger, and she was able to do the painting, and I think the sculptures were much moreglove-like. They worked alone, and they were more isolationists. MIJA RIEDEL: So, youbecame her assistant fairly quickly. It washaving an arsenal, collecting an arsenal of weaponry. NEIL WILLIAMS: That'syeah that's just it. Claire Hadlock said it is important to go to the right sources when an individual has questions. Or I gothere's a certain health and comfort and a revitalization of my energy knowing thatI'm doing the right thing for myself and my work and everything's going to okay, as long as I don't stress too much about it. Monday-Friday, excluding Federal holidays, by appointment. MIJA RIEDEL: clearly Charles was a huge influence on her. And she bought most of them and took them home with her. NEIL WILLIAMS: But it was funny, because she would get so scattered that she would almost like self-implode on the verbiage. And cutting and supporting it properly, cutting it as it dries and then having it unfold or restructuring it as it dries, because the carving is a process, a multistage process, where I just don't cut it and carve it. Afterthoughts? Uh-huh. NEIL WILLIAMS: Boy, I don't know. So that's what I thought I mean, you, being a writer, would know that great visualscan be great food for great writers, too. That's why a lot of those people end up with thoseI mean, it's work, it's hard, I know, but the comfort zones of teaching. Duchamp said that art was a drug, and I think Viola was a premier, thank God, example of that. . It's been a fabulous place to land for as long as it lasts. MIJA RIEDEL: Mm-hmm. NEIL WILLIAMS: I haven't doubted it since, but I've had moments of, you know, 'what the hell am I doing,' but at the same time I've always known that's what I was going to do. You have to understand earth, fire, and water in their most extreme conditions, and that was reallyit made sense to me for some reason. Dorothy was wonderful. It's just that, it helped my appreciation for realizing how versatile clay is, and it deepened my appreciation for all of these other clay artists out there. WebNeil Chalmers was born in Oxford on September 25, 1980, the son of Andy Chalmers, who ran The Lamb pub in Wantage. Did I understand you say that? WebNeil Callan form, results and upcoming races. NEIL WILLIAMS: So, she sacrificed a lot to be able to do her work butso. I love the feeling at the end of a day. NEIL WILLIAMS: But in looking back, Ithere was a period of time I was fortunate enough to work near herassist herthatit seemed to be a click and across the board. Where are we going?" NEIL WILLIAMS: Oh, writers, you know, all kinds of writers, yeah. But, no, I remember mentioning something about that at one of Charles' services aboutmemorial services about wanting to thank him forI understand he's one ofhe's the one who encouraged Peter Voulkos to hand build. Would you add Charles to that list? MIJA RIEDEL: Absolutely. So, NEIL WILLIAMS: Yeah. She was very patient and shesized people up and, as far as what would be the best fit for Viola. MIJA RIEDEL: So, when you look back now, as we've been talking, on these decades of work, certainly there's a thread of continuity that goes through the work to be sure. %%EOF NEIL WILLIAMS: And the quote coming out of that was that she said, "You have to remain compulsive and leave some work unfinished. We had to read everything from Van Gogh's letters to Theo to Shgun to Invisible Man from Emerson [Ralph Ellison] toI mean there was a wonderful poetry series that Michael McClure at Arts and Crafts sponsored one of the Beat Generation guys. MIJA RIEDEL: Mm-hmm. NEIL WILLIAMS: Itmaybe demands might be a little bit too critical. Does that sound accurate, or would you put it another way? I just have a couple final questions in summary, and then any final thoughts you might have are more than welcome. Some of them reminded me of Hieronymus Bosch for some reason. MIJA RIEDEL: And it was always clearly clay? So, there's a number of stories like that in the area. Where I come to and I've made something, I had no idea how I made it? NEIL WILLIAMS: He washe's got the body of Schwarzenegger, still in his seventies, and is strong, and the face and voice of Morgan Freeman. But I'm notI don't know. This site is maintained by Racing and Sports Pty Ltd (ABN 093 360 108) ("R&S"). I constantly check occasionally for amusement, self-amusement. NEIL WILLIAMS: Yeah. The Savior said that His Father maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust (Matthew 9:45). I'm just stubborn, I just get on, I just get on a bone. 0000005718 00000 n A woman said there was a box, there were 300 applications in them, and there were a dozen of them with Ph.Ds., and there was 12 in-house masters waiting for someone to roll over so that they couldyou know, it's so political, even in these community college systems. They were on the back burner or no burner at all. And she was giggling all the time about stuff, yeah. So, I mean, I can go five minutes down here and be in beautiful nature surroundings. NEIL WILLIAMS: He did a littlemost of her reading for her, I'm certain. Like I said, he was older, did a lot of her reading and herwriting for her, and was the premier voice behind her of how good she was and how great her work is, and going to be. So. So there was a certain contagiousness aboutyou know, you're around with someone, I don't know if the molecules meld or morph or whatever they do, but there's some transference going on there. NEIL WILLIAMS: and activating the surface. 0 NEIL WILLIAMS: That's what I meant about speaking in incomplete sentences, and then realizing instinctively what she wanted and what she needed help with. 0000010881 00000 n And, I could feel that thereI knew from when I first walked into her house and her backyard and helped her, there was something just reallylike, oh my God, there is an energy, an electricity, and there'san exploration. NEIL WILLIAMS: And I know after she started some of her health issues, there wassome of them looked tired, but at the same time they were still nonetheless magnificent. It was mass and volume questions, and dichotomies there. NEIL WILLIAMS: No, I've been really lucky. The French philosopher talked about lan vital, the vital energy. MIJA RIEDEL: This is Mija Riedel with Neil Williams in the artist's home and studio in Auburn, CA on June 5, 2014 for the Smithsonian Archives of American Art, card number one. She would do that, during the bulk of the day, and then she'd go in the house and paint and draw all night, and get right back up and do it again. I remember, was it Rodin talking about taking the cube of marble and liberating the sphere inside of it. NEIL WILLIAMS: But he's one of our pride and joys, and we still think about him and talk about him a lot. MIJA RIEDEL: Now would you take chainsaw, as well, or whatever the saw was that Sam was describing and cut them up that way? WebThis website contains horse racing systems, staking plans and many articles about Australian horse racing of interest to gamblers NEIL WILLIAMS: and of course having her daughter Trish and Calvert working for so long for her. He is creative, passionate about his work, quirky, self-motivated but above all, has a huge heart and is so pleasant to work with. But I knew, just to see the magnificence of color and form, that there was something very special going on here. MIJA RIEDEL: Did you ever have that kind of experience? A natural presenter and storyteller, Neil is a great client-facing guy and clients love him. NEIL WILLIAMS: I was working with clay. And I was like, "Oh my God.". But also, for some reason, I remember us thinking I knew what was coming just from her firstthe first day of class there. I don't know how to describe it. MIJA RIEDEL: Okay. She said, "You got to be making things you love to look at. NEIL WILLIAMS: Because if I get frustrated working, or if I getit's not going right, that piece isn't going to happen, especially at critical points. MIJA RIEDEL: and the evolution of the bronzes. NEIL WILLIAMS: I could have gone either way. NEIL WILLIAMS: And so shecollected a lot of ammo in that area. NEIL WILLIAMS: And the great irony of that and the torment can be for so many artistsI mean, look in human history, or art history, how it's driven them off the deep end. It would take years to make a little jump in progress, it seemed like. And Viola would yell out of the side, "Art's about personal experience!" NEIL WILLIAMS: It's mind and body. NEIL WILLIAMS: So I think that's why I made so many bowls. Yeah, and I have a special connection with some, too. And we sat with himbecause Lee forgot some equipment, had to run off. NEIL WILLIAMS: No, I'm justgood at that. And I said, "Viola, it was a compliment. The gallery washe was going to do sales and donate it towards the Shanti Center or to hospices, or to Bates' Hospices, or to the arts down there where he was. And he said, "A museum down there wants an installation." . Quotes and excerpts must be cited as follows: Oral history interview with Neil Williams, 2014 June 5-6. MR] the transition from the more patterned painting on, for example, the women's dresses. What a different way of thinking about an audience. She talked about her connection with the grandmother or with the grandfather who had the pile of junk and nobody moved it, or they stayed away from it because it was his pile of junk, and. NEIL WILLIAMS: It just doesn'tI mean, it's not a priority. He said, "I always considered these, or conceived these as individual." [Laughs.] Is there respect for it? NEIL WILLIAMS: Yeah. NEIL WILLIAMS: but for some reason, especially with female. NEIL WILLIAMS: I think that's probably one of the reasons I've kind of like retreated. NEIL WILLIAMS: Because she wasshe sold like crazy, and everyone liked her. Was the title of it loosely "Where do we come from? . You know, in that relationand how an ism is born when the art world is going one way and somebody does a 90 degree, that's where isms come from. I rememberimages were very personal to her, of course, and it made sense because she was in a panel once, a discussion panel at NCECA [National Council on Education for the Ceramic Arts]. . And the later ones, yeahthe animated ones, where she was taking molds and recreating the dog's face or a still life. So he was like all over the"What are you doing now?" And those thingsyou never knew what happened to them. MR] all these different quotes from all these different artists over time and different places, is there a community that's been significant to your development as an artist? [Laughs.]. I regret nothing. The camelyou know, all those little figurines, they were wanting to explore, like she said, small figurines on a colossal, larger-than-life-size scale. All information including race fields and TAB numbers should be checked with an official source. It reads as one form. [END OF TRACK william14_1of3_sd_track02.]. MIJA RIEDEL: Mm-hmm. "You get here and we make a few things and I'm completely smoothed out." And then multiple layers of color. You could tell she reallythat was ashe was driven by that. She added up the time one day she spend doing that rather than the action of painting or drawing, and she said, "That's enough, I'm not smoking anymore." Thats a way of ministering and thats a way of using technology and social media for good. She still was immediately drawn back to building things in clay, and painting, and doing the pastels, and junk pieces. She was just using me as a sounding board, of course, a fresh, young eye, whatever it was. How it's changed over time, how it started. And there's a frenzy in some of thecertainly the bricoleur pieces and the paintings, there is an energy, a density, a frenzy, NEIL WILLIAMS: It's awell, we always kind of laughed a little. MIJA RIEDEL: Mm-hmm. You knowis the intention of the artist clear in this piece? So, there is something that's stimulating and it's not something that I want to obsess over or completely give a lot of energy to. MIJA RIEDEL: and that he really had a poetic heart and spirit and that [the war had really MR] left its mark. I mean, she wanted toshe was so compulsive about stuff. And it wasit was almost like she had hunted, killed it, brought it home for display. Because I was 2D at the time. Victor Building make sure the graphviz executables are on your systems' path. Mija Riedel has reviewed the transcript. Or does it feel like a continuous line mostly? And, he has an extraordinary collection. When I spoke with Rena, she talked about introducing Viola to Patterson Sims. And what was your dad's name? But, I know they were very affectionate, too. Create your account , it takes less than a minute, Dont let the game play you; gamble responsibly. I mean, she wasso nice to me and sobecause the vessel wasn't her thing really. . And, even though there were gaps in her thought processes, like there are in all of our lives, in all of our dialogues, you could tell there was a depth of thought there. NEIL WILLIAMS: She talked aboutwell, she talked out milking depression for all it was worth. But it's still there and it's still really highly motivational soI'm sorry, what was the original question? [Affirmative.] MIJA RIEDEL: The degree to which the cup and the teapot were deconstructed in the life and the energy, the sheer sort of whirling dervish quality they had was extraordinary. So, I think I gravitated towards vessel-making, and connected with it immediately, and it's certainly evolved to other things, NEIL WILLIAMS: but it gave me a discipline, and it gave me sense of accomplishment and self-respect, I think, that was healthy and, NEIL WILLIAMS: it made me realize that it was possible to pursue this. "It's virtually impossible to write about an ism when you're in the middle of it. NEIL WILLIAMS: And, then I realized later onan analogy for how she hoarded images, too. MIJA RIEDEL: So were you there, as the pieces got bigger and bigger, part of designing the infrastructure that enabled them to get that large? Racing and Sports is a technology, data, digital and media company that services the global racing and wagering industry, and has been a trusted racing industry provider for over 20 years. NEIL WILLIAMS: I always thought they had this beautiful bittersweetness to them. You're surrounded by it. NEIL WILLIAMS: Oh my God, right herethat's a whole other disc I think. And I had a larger studio, and they said, "Do you do any workshops?" MIJA RIEDEL: Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. You got to be making work you love to look at becauseand surround yourself with because you may have to." Lots of private, local patrons and. MIJA RIEDEL: Are there any critics or writers that have been significant to you, you've learned from or appreciated or. MIJA RIEDEL: You had an immediate facility with that, from the time you first touched it at 14, it sounds. And they will all attach different words to try and describe their experiences with that stone. NEIL WILLIAMS: It's right across from the Veteran's Cemetery. Looking back 50 years later, will your faith in the Savior be the most powerful force that moved you forward? Elder Andersen asked BYU students. They might have been. But before she passed away, she kept talking about "I have one of Neil's mother's drawings. He hadI mean, every time he would do a show, the Germans who loved him, the young Germans, would write a book on him. MIJA RIEDEL: We were talking about episodes or periods of work. And it's I don't know howI mean, that dichotomy and thatthat dance is still going on, and, MIJA RIEDEL: And I'm sure there are people who would disagree with that heartily, but it's interesting, NEIL WILLIAMS: Well, I hope so, but what is interesting is that it asks those questions. They had an interna volunteer installing her plate collection, and there was, I don't know, 50, 60, 70-something plates. Despite Jim Cassidy's best efforts BASHAASH still won the first at Canterbury tonight. It was her first big coming out show since she'd hid out for nine years and just made work, put it in your backyard or up your attic orand, she was talking about the opening, "Well, I hope so-and-so's going to be there." Mario's retired, but theythe thing about them is they remindand that's why Jason Rhoades kept coming backthey remind everyone what it is to stay a human being in all of that. Preference cookies enable a website to remember information that changes the way the website behaves or looks, like your preferred language or the region that you are in. So would you make dinner sets? The Church News is an official publication of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. NEIL WILLIAMS: So we fired all the kilnsI fired all the kilns in the summers, they were gas kilns. They got very pronounced. And, of course, she'd make deals, you know, "I'll pay you so much a month whether you work or not." Like fooling people in that way, deceptively deft. So he just says, "Thank you, I love you, I pray for you every day," and he's just an amazing human being. Create your account , it takes less than a minute, Dont let the game play you; gamble responsibly. NEIL WILLIAMS: And Arlene LewAllen was the best. NEIL WILLIAMS: But it was hard work, because she worked so hard. 0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic. I wasn'tit wasn't driven like Viola was, or so many other artists, you know. A little bit of contact there. NEIL WILLIAMS: And the same thing happened with the Oakland Museum. But, so as far as fitting into the bigger picture of the art world, the American art market, American art world, I justit's pretty simple. WebNeil Williams (19341977) was a Welsh aerobatics pilot. Some cookies are placed by third party services that appear on our pages. NEIL WILLIAMS: I try not to do commissions. And then she wouldI don't know if she really wanted the responsibility of anyone else. "Well here, let me send you something." You do not stay attached to it." Only with an eternal perspective of Gods great plan of happiness can we ever find a more excellent hope. 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