Their physical condition changed as a result of their eating the forbidden fruit. Im not really sure how your comment addresses Eds point at all or anything in the article. And they heard the sound of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day (Genesis 3:8).The use of the term walk with reference to God brings up the issue of God communicating to humankind in human language. We are lonesome here, and it is difficult for us to remember how much You love us.' . God went down to talk with Adam and Eve as usual in the cool of the day, normally they would be in the open and easy to find, but this time when God came they were afraid and had hidden behind some trees or bushes. I decided to search the internet to see WHY people believe this. Hi Carrie, God bless you. Adam and Eve got to literally hang out with God all day long, face to face. If He was walking, then this must have been a theophany - a pre-incarnate appearance of the Second Person of the Trinity. However, I dont see how your final statement about the garden has any relevance. Read lev 25:20 and if you shall say what shall we eat in the 7th year? Hi David, After all, they had not experienced or seen death as of yet. There may have been thousands of years, who knows? Job 38:1 states, The YHWH answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said:. The answer is that it was the Word, who later became Jesus Christ, that walked and talked with Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden. We do see examples of theophanies in the Old Testament where God does appear to people in human form, as He did to Abraham. Adam and Eve and God literally walking next to each other in perfect harmony. He put the Man he had just made in it. It is like asserting that, since NO text in the Bible OUTRIGHT affirms that Adam ever saw the stars, then It is unwarranted to assume that he ever did see the stars.. This month we will look at Bible texts from Genesis to Revelation to reflect on what it means to walk with God. Genesis 3:8 ? I had always taken it for granted too that God walked with Adam in the cool of the day which He very well might haveand Id like to use my imagination and believe that He did but the Bible definitely doesnt say that He did. Then something happened. Im not sure what that accomplishes other than allowing for the possibility that they might have, which is something I have said from the start. God also brought the animals to Adam so he could name them. ILL TAKE YOUR APOLIGE NOW ,,WHERE THEY USE TO WALK WITH GOD ,THEY CHOOSE TO HIDE !! But even that would not prove that He took strolls with Adam. Ive added that to the article now to help clarify that point. god wanted to walk (live) with them in an ongoing and fruitful relationship and the whole book of Leviticus shows them how to correctly walk with god. In fact, they didn't even know what want and longing were! But at least enough time passed to provide people who lived in Nod and a wife for Cain. Now there is no way to prove that God actually walked with them or actually spent anytime with them, it is just implied from His habitual coming to the garden in the cool of the day. The impression given is one of God being there in an embodied form, performing surgery on the man, building Eve and then walking her to Adam. They heard the sound of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and the man and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the Lord God among the trees of . Thanks for your focus on this and for sharing the fruits of your consideration of the passage. For example, the Passover lamb was to be eaten (Exodus 12:8). See my article, Was Jesus Married? Of course, Adam and Eve walked with God in the Garden, its written right there in Genesisumahis it 3? They heard the sound of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and the man and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the Lord God among the trees of the garden. In fact it comes to mind that the statement can be transcended as a statement of faith, that the Lord God was loving and personal as he claims himself to be and did walk with them, who knows. And how many times is this a supporting argument for a main point or the main point itself? I dont have a problem with people thinking that Adam and Eve walked with God (as I stated, they may have), but I want people to realize that the Bible doesnt say that they did. 8 Then GOD planted a garden in Eden, in the east. Thank you Michael. I appreciate your fidelity to Gods Word. This could be literally translated "the wind of that day." Some think this might refer to a strong wind. thank you so much. This verse appears immediately after our first parents rebelled against the Creator. They heard the sound of the Lord God walking in the garden at the time of the evening breeze, and the man and his wife hid from the presence of the Lord God among the trees of the garden. He was there, He is everywhere and He was always with them. If so, Adam and Eve's reaction makes more sense. September 13, 2019. If so, that means Cain and Abel could have been over 120 years old when Cain killed Abel. 10 For if, when we were enemies of God, we were reconciled to Him through the death of His Son, how much more, having been reconciled, shall we be saved through His life! (Gen 3:5-8). Yes, I do understand that God desires relationship with His peopleto walk with them as they walk with Him. We know that God is capable of doing this, but my point is that the text never states or implies that He did. Moses was only granted the backside of Jesus. Adam (perhaps Eve too) was familiar with Gods presence. ~~~~~ There are other passages in Scripture about those who did walk with God. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. We speak of ourwalk with God, yet dont speak of Him being right there physically. The imagery in the temple indicates that it was recreating Eden, indicating that God was present in Eden in a special way that he was not present in other places on the earth. The ESV accurately captures Adams response in verse 10. God walking with people normally suggests closeness and intimacy and fellowship. I agree with you that we cannot say with certainty that God walked with them, I am just here to point out that the language suggests a repetitive habit of God. Hi Tim. Thank you for your post and your diligence to pursuing Biblical accuracy! Not because I think Im right and feel holier than thou but it was just something burning in me saying NO. This is very important to walk with god on this because if they didnt walk with god by keeping his commandments sabbaths and statutes then there would be no rain. 5. Again, in Gen 3:24, we see that God drove the man out of the Garden of Eden. So they hid from the LORD God among the trees. (Vs. 24 says He drove them out the he place Cherubims). The Lord can speak out of it and He can perform any other functions, such as making coats of skins, while in that form. Instead of adding our own ideas to Scripture and stating them dogmatically and demanding apologies from anyone who disagrees, perhaps we should learn to deal carefully with the word of God. There is no need to attribute the work to me. When I was young I remember the most favorites of things I would get for Christmas. I believe when the Bible states they heard the Lord in the cool of the day I think its a spiritual voice. Considering that each year subtracted from Cain and Abels ages at the time of Abels murder could be added to Adam and Eves time in the Garden, its quite possible that Adam and Eve spent many years in the Garden, which would make their sin all that more sorrowful. So I wouldnt personally address this part of Adam walking with God or not unless the message was ill. Hi Bryan, I appreciate your effort Tim, thank you. It was the sound of God that Adam heard. Based on the sheer number of people who have claimed this, it must be found somewhere in the Bible, right? It is a special, peaceful garden oasis God created as a home for Adam and Eve (and maybe also Lilith) where their two jobs were to give animals names . The Genesis account contains provocative clues as to what Adam and Eve lost by withdrawing from God. It is possible that God literally walked in the Garden of Eden in the form of a human. Ive heard so many people claim that the Bible says Adam and Eve walked with God in the garden (and some even add these words, in the cool of the day). Genesis 3:8 Can you imagine what it must have been like in the garden of Eden, before sin entered the world? I went to church this past Sunday and my pastor who is pretty good with the Word of God and quick to say if he is wrong said he had a revelation thats god ohyically walked with Adam and Eve and as he spoke my discernment clearly was NO THIS DID NOT HAPPEN. God cannot look upon sin ( Habakkuk 1:13) and that's why He told Moses no one can see His face and live ( Exodus 33:20 ). Thanks for your comments. Two things that they did see. If so, then it seems to follow that there would be ongoing communion and communication between God, Adam, and Eve. Later after the fall of man, mankind lost the ability to see God physically save through the theophany. However, God did come physically to Abraham and ate. The problem with this claim is that youll never find a Bible verse that teaches it. If that suggestion is accurate, then it would have been a physical presence of God coming in judgment, similar to how He spoke from the whirlwind in Job. CLAIM #1: No, I mean that God must have spent time with them in order to teach them, how else would they learn to talk, to till the land, to eat, to basically live their lives in a way that was pleasing to Him! In the later OT the Temple was the place of God's special presence where he made himself known and felt to Israel. 19 Out of the ground the Lord God formed every beast of the field and every bird of the air, >>>>>and brought them to Adam to see what he would call them. Adam fell because he freely chose to disobey God, but second because he listened to his wife who had also freely chosen to disobey. I think we both agree that God doesnt need to appear in human form to bring the animals to Adam or to perform surgery on him. It would be far better to use a supporting argument that has a strong biblical basis. there are many who use the idea of Adam and Eve actually walking with God to stress the theological point of mans closeness to God prior to sin in order to contrast that with mans lost condition after sin. What do you think?? Sincerely, For those of you who are unaware, this one major question is mainly centered around Genesis 3:8 where it stated "Then the man and his wife heard the sound of the lord as he was walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and they hid from the lord God among the trees of the garden.". Thanks for your thoughts on this. The Tree of Life was in the Garden was it not? God goes to great lengths to explain how he wants the relationship to be. To the second point in your conclusion, I think it is quite speculative. Who was Cain afraid of? I can see that cool of the day can be also be breath, spirit, or wind. God's presence is also noted by . Hi Nucc, Im not opposed to this idea. Due to the craftiness of the serpent, sin found its way into the Garden and everything fell apart. !NOW YOU CAN TAKE THIS LIE DOWN FOR GOOD ,,,THANK YOU !!!!STEVI. 18? I have no doubt that they heard an audible voice when God asked, Where are you? or when He asked who told them that they were naked. Maybe they did, but the text doesnt tell us that. Satan. I think your comments are valid additional arguments that could be used by those who favor that view, but as you seem to recognize (it seems to follow), the arguments are not watertight. As you supposed, God did provide water for the animals too. It does say he was afraid-afraid because they were naked. In fact, nearly as soon as the Lord have man the woman they went together directly to the forbidden tree (as soon as God turned aside to rest from all the work of His creation) they were tempted, took the fruit and ate it. That is exactly how his walking with Adam and Eve in the Garden is depicted. If He did or didnt is still and can always be up for discussion , its a gut instinct in me that says no but at the end of the day Im just glad Im saved and can sort it out when I get to Heaven! But nowhere does it mention or even implies that they "saw" God face to face. Thats right, you are right there with them from birth, not that they were made a baby first of course, as that would take other humans to raise them as we know it! God asks them if they had eaten from the tree, but He already knows the answer. Was it God walking or was it something different? Yes this is almost like apples and oranges because our parents are here in physical form but just trying to make a point and the Bible clearly says no one knows what God looks like except His Son . First, we are told that God made man from the dust of the ground, and he didnt become a living being until God breathed the breath of life into him (Genesis 2:7). Hello Tim. who knows perhaps it was. Thanks for reading and sharing your thoughts. From this view, Adam and Eve were with God in the Garden for a whileand they had the privilege of regularly hanging out with Him. Thank you for helpful writing. Its not like Genesis 5:24 (Enoch walked with God) or Genesis 6:9 (Noah walked with God). They may have done that, and I wouldnt have any problem with it. Far too many people run around claiming, The Bible says Adam and Eve walked with God in the garden, but as Ive pointed out, it doesnt say that. Ive heard pastors, speakers, authors, and many other Christians confidently state that Adam and Eve walked with God in the Garden of Eden. The untold truth of the Garden of Eden. God fashioned Eve out of Adam's rib (Genesis 2:22). for details. 9 GOD made all kinds of trees grow from the ground, trees beautiful to look at and good to eat. I guess its just hard to let go of certain ideas, but we must always allow our thinking to be challenged by what Scripture actually says rather than what we want it to say. I worship in His presence and put off His presence! My main point is that we dont go around saying that the Bible says that Adam and Eve walked with God in the garden, because that just isnt in there. The Bible doesnt say that Cains wife was from Nod. Since the Bible doesnt make this claim, its impossible to know for sure where people get the idea from. Granted, Adam and Eve walking with God poses no theological problems, but my point here is that the strength (or better, weakness) of that particular argument is roughly the same. The chronology of the genealogy of the man is followed throughout the Bible. 11 Not only that, but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation. God also provided quail for a whole month (Numbers 11:1920). So it seems as if Abel had just recently passed away. There is a possibility that we should understand that Hebrew text to be speaking about something more like the whirlwind at the end of Jobthat they heard the sound of God moving about (not walking) in the Garden. In this environment, Adam and Eve had safety, abundant food, meaningful work and fellowship with God. We also should not assume that God was at their beck and call so that He would come around for a stroll whenever they wanted Him there. Why werent they mentioned? Weve arrived at a very similar conclusion very recently that Adam and his wife or help-meat very possibly disobeyed their creators command not to eat of the fruit of tree in the midst of the garden the first day they were placed there. Who is this that would kill him? He could have done it audibly from the heavens, or He could have spent time with Adam in the garden. Thank you so much. I have been studying this part about god walking with Adam when I came across your post. I dont recall a specific instance of this, but since the promised land was repeatedly spoken of as a land flowing with milk and honey, I take that to mean that their flocks would thrive and they would have an abundance of milk (in addition to honey and more). Im not sure that it necessarily follows that there would be ongoing communion and communication between God, Adam, and Eve. Your article keeps us on the ever-important path of faithfulness. 1 They Could DECIDE Genesis 3:2-3. Personal fellowship with God is at the very heart of our purpose for being! When he made Eve, he took a rib, closed up Adams side with flesh and then he brought the woman to Adam. Haha very eye opening. Hi Greg, Following Gods words to the T is one of the reasons why the law was fulfilled by Jesus and not by man. They are not taking a leisurely stroll with God, they are hiding from Him as He comes to announce His judgment. This walking refers to living a life that pleases God. Adam did hear Gods voice at another time. The NRSV's rendering makes the time more explicit, "at the time of the evening breeze" (also REB). After all, how old did they have to be to be a keeper of sheep and a tiller of the land? 15? Why? Im not sure you have dealt sufficiently with the argument that God must have walked with Adam and Eve in the garden previously for Adam and Eve to know that they sound they heard was God. Did you notice something else about the way people typically define the image of God? Gods presence is also noted by his walking in the camp and sanctuary of Israel. (NASB) Gen. 3:8. Well done! In conclusion, the whole of chapter 2 & 3 causes me to conclude that Adam regularly communed with God somehow; and to me probably daily (or at least almost) since we know we are the apple of His eye. Again, Im not opposed to the idea at all, but the text just never says it. I think you misunderstand what was meant by the possibility of God coming in the wind. It saddens me to let go of the notion that God would hang out with them in the cool of the evening. I believe whenever we read the words The Word of the Lord came to such and such prophet, that means Jesus (who is the Word of God)literally came to that individual as Jesus appeared to John on the Island of Patmos. "Walked with God" is a favorite expression in Genesis, depicting the righteous conduct of Israel's heroes, including Enoch, Noah, and Abraham. Thanks for taking the time to read and leave a comment. This is just another suposition made by humans who try to understand divinly inspired scripture with a flawed human mind. The goal of this post is to encourage people to take a closer look at the Bible instead of repeating what theyve heard. Its sort of like saying, The Bible never says Jesus wasnt married, so He might have been. Its true that Scripture never states this plainly, but there are certain inferences people make from some verses in an effort to support such an idea. God then planted a garden 'eastward in Eden' (2:8), containing both the tree of life and 'the tree of knowledge of good . Garden of Eden story: summary. Josh 5:13-15 - the commander of the LORD's army (compare Rev 19:9, 10) Dan 3:25 - the "Son of God" in the fiery furnace. 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