where is very intense connection and I can feel things youve described but also I can see it as long term.. )~~~a reader with Sun in Neptune and Saturn and Mars both in 12th house. Hi!! Eventually, we learn that life is not as random as we thought, but full of purpose and meaning. I often was a bit too demanding of her when it comes to intimacy and I wonder if this is about me learning to let go. scares me a bit. In a negative way, the struggles within the partnership will cause the Pluto person to see where his or her behaviour needs adjusting. Comfy date, lots of laughter, he contacted me for a second date. They seem bonded before a word is spoken. Learn More. Me and my friend have composite sun conj. Thanks for this very interesting article about that controversial 12th house and I totally agree with your final paragraph. Thank you, Tricia. Its not special, its common. This is brilliant and compassionate. Thank you for this series of articles! Romantic Conjunctions in the 12th House. Thank You so much for Your answer! You are great!!!!!!!!!!! In composite, we have sun, mercury and part of fortune in the 12th. The composite charts (both Davison and midpoint) need to be progressed. The 12th house is always complex and is different in how it manifests depending on the contacts involved. More appreciative of that special melding? Anything different there? Concentrate on intimacy and you should be all right. The lower expression has to be elevated, and the higher expression needs to be realized. along with Juno. There are two conjunctions with ascendent as well. We need strong, healthy egos to accomplish what weve come to do in this life, but we need to act according to what is wanted of us, not against it. The composite chart is probably the best known. My natal venus is in the 12 th house. My daughter and I have a 12th house Sun-Moon conjunction (in Cancer) in our composite. I say empty.. no planet but Asteroid Osiris is 26 Aries. You might have a relationship that was so intense, which left you hurting. Couples with a heavy 12th house/ 6th house polarity have to find a way to put their wisdom to some practical use. I can no longer approach love as wholeheartedly again. But I do have one question? I cannot really make that happen now I dont know why but Im still thinking that he is my faith or not, everything is very confused. It is not so much a question of choice, more that the universe has chosen for them to be together (at least, thats what it feels like). Dear Dawn, As the article says : this being the 12th, most of the time the lesson is learning to love and then let go. It doesn't have to be a breakup. intresting to know why its so bad. What do You think about Davison Chart? RUN ? I feel that our connection is a long term one over many lifetimes. When transit Neptune is in the composite 12th house, you can explore your spiritual connection, and want to make sure that youre intuitively moving in the same direction. We work together, this relationship is definitely a karmic one, but now, after 1 one year of being together, there are some difficulties. Lovely article. Im always attracted to those types of relationships I was immediately flooded with emotion- I realized all at once how intensely close to him I was and needed to know if he was ok, etc. I met this men who i recall seeing 20 years ago once and a couple of other times within that 20 years. In composite we have north node in 12th. That was over three years ago. Mars in the 12th can mean unconscious eroticism, aggression, or desire. I really feel like there is a wolf howling in a forest at night and I hear his call , I know I am the female wolf and that the call is for me and I have to go to him now. I am a pisces sun, mercury, mars. The relationship only lasted a few months but for some reason it has left a deep-seated, soul-touching impression with me. Is this similar for composite ruler in 12th? Lilith in the 12th House is an unusual placement because it revolves around the dark side of your life and its unseen parts. Bright blessings to you. I have been so confused and you describe it so accurately. I think that your article is quite amazing, but for those of us who are making these relationships work for us I wish you would have given some cases in which it can work. We feel that our twelfth house planets dont work the way our other planets do, or the way that same planet seems to behave in other peoples charts. As a 8th house sun Virgo 8th Venus Leo I am sure this adds to my sexual nature. i have it conjunct in our davison3rd house- and opposite in4th-10th in composite. But thank you for helping me face reality. And you may then limit yourself for years, into oblivion. In general, a composite Jupiter in the second house makes a couple value a life lived on the grandest scale possible. 12th House Meaning. The 12th house is all about past life astrology, so the planets can . And what does it mean our 12th. (I have never done anything like that with anyone else.) Loving and letting go, as well as maturing your love into a transcendant form of love where you are able to love so deeply that you give it the potential to annihilate you, yet you learn to let go and allow the natural changes in the state of our being has been a reoccurring theme of my life. I fell onto another man after that whom I had a very deep dark sexual connection to and whom I shared a heavy 8th composite chart with. I had a relationship with someone, in our composite chart, we have a stellium in the 12th house Sun, Juno, Venus and Uranus. It is composed of the combined midpoints of each person's planets and angles. Your post was seemed most fitting for a romantic liaison. With Libra in 12th House, your past life may not be that pleasant. I dont have enough information, but the chart emphasis leads me to believe that you are right in your analysis, that the partnership finds its life in the upper houses. Sure someone up there wants to teach me a lesson (again!). I retire in one year and will be living 20 miles from him. I dont know why im writing you this because uncounsciously know this relationship was all about love and let go. I feel so relieved after reading it because I really thought i was crazy. Am I right in deducing that this relationship is more of an initiation? i imagine these aspects can point to a past life where there was dominance in the work field isuees? Im a Pisces sun 7house. Dawn, I just found this and it seems to hold some answers about what is going wrong with my marriage of 8 years. One thing Ive noticed with these people is that other people usually notice their . It isnt every case that the couple with a strong 12th house will break up. Because of the sensitivity of house cusps, I recommend using the Koch house system . For whatever reason, you may have a secret relationship . Ive known couples who are married for long periods of time to have 12th house composites. It has left a hole in my heart, (composite chiron conjunct asc) and I suffered from insomnia regretting I should or shouldnt have done. Chiron in 12th House Meaning, Chiron in Twelfth House Meaning. Our composite sun is in the 7 house. We dont really grasp whats in the 12th until we spiritualize it, remove the ego from the planets function. (One expression does not contra-indicate the other.). Our midpoint composit cannot show any true about our relationship. But my heart and mind keep telling me to fight again. We could look at each other and read one anothers minds, but not in a way where you hear words or anything. It has felt fated, mesmerizing, seductive, magnetic and karmic. I do use the Black Moon Lilith in my composites, but what she represents there is a whole article of its own. Because, of Saturn and Pluto? Thanks for the kind and helpful words, Dawn. Women may stay because they think, how the heck am i going to find a man Im this connected to? We have Sun, Mercury, Venus, and Uranus in the 12th house in our composite chart. Thank you very much. Im kinda tired of dancing with men who enjoy attempting control and am tired of the endlessly unavailable creatures that keep crossing my path in life. Love for loves sake wont fly with the 12th house. Its weird weird weird . One valuable lesson I learned is to refrain being attached to an outcome with him. He seems very able to detach himself and move to the future. Haunting I put mars (Cancer) in his 12th. you are right on target- although I forgot to mention that our trine is in 4th,8th and 12th you are an amazing teacher and your articales on your site have helped me tremendously. thanks you very much Dawn to shed some lights on this! Again, sadly, this being the 12th, most of the time the lesson is learning to love and then let go. I need help! However, with so much 12th house a individuals, and then as a couple, can there be something more than We are fated, but we are meant to part. It doesnt matter. When transit Saturn is in the composite 12th house, you may feel that old issues or subconscious issues in the relationship become more of a problem, and need to be worked on, understood, and moved on from. Indeed, I felt the fear trampling along the edge with fear of insecurity. Ive recently broke up with what was felt the love of my life the most pure and locvng relationship ever. Is this why I am feeling this more? Are these water houses the culprits that keep pulling me back? Greetings. Just a knowing if you will. I could love this man more than my husband who is a caring man and in a way very similar to this man. You have a strong synastry and a strong 1st house in the composite, and of course that makes a difference. We are happy when were together but he took a job 2 hours away and moved into our country house which I have now come to hate. I have a 12th house Capricorn stellium and my husband and I also have a composite 12th house Capricorn stellium. We are each in our mid 60she never married, and I (a widow) married 25 yearsto a Pisces. I was heart broken all over again. venus+mars, etc. The Sun in 11th house synastry overlay creates an atmosphere of friendship between you. But someone who tells you they love you every day and tries to break up with you every month is clearly not. Arent these positive aspects good enough to sustain a relationship down-to-earth, telling me to forgive and try again or just simply blowing the matter worse and prolonging it?. We have our composite sun in 12th house, along with saturn. Whatever I told you would not have a context. Its time to clean up the karma between you, according to the position of the Nodes in the composite chart. I use both in my practice. Regine. The only way that you can figure out the main issue of karma in a relationship is to examine the nature of both Nodes and their rulers in the Composite, along with aspects to the Nodes. The Davison chart is a time/space chart and is anchored in the here and now. I dont know why but i love him so much and sometimes I come up with things like dreaming of him to call me after a while he calls me. Aspects to composite planets will fill in the details. I like my husband as well after 20 years of marriage but I feel like I fell in this tragic love triangle story without asking for it! But venus, mars, moon and vertex in the first house in pisces. This is the empty space, the place where we are not like others, the place where the pieces dont fit. *Also in synastry- my 12th house Juno in Taurus also sits in his 12th house) Lilith in 12th House, Black Moon Lilith In Twelfth House; 1 Angel Number, 1 Angel Number Twin Flame. In my experience, if you have a good synastry but a difficult composite, the couple get along with one another but have problems establishing the relationship in the outside world. Overall, this is considered a favorable Lilith placement, as it is . I have forgotten to say, as for HIS Lilith, its conjunct my Desc (orb -1) which is an interaspect I cant give meaning to, (too hard to analyse for me) but however, it also is a new lilith matter. I wouldnt say that one is more important than another. You have nailed my experience. I need all the help to understand I can get. Like individuals with 12th house planets, couples with a lot of twelfth house may feel that there is something fated about their lives together. She becomes the energy that stands in our way even as she offers dark gifts.